The cardboard box again came to Snake's aid during both the Tanker and Big Shell Incidents. Aboard the dummy tanker USS Discovery, Snake located "The Orange" box in a pantry that was presumably used for food transportation,[19] and later found a wet box of presumably the same intended purpose on the ship's deck,[20] which had become drenched in the rain. Aboard the Big Shell, Snake used the box to evade enemy detection, though he was spotted on one occasion by mercenary leader Olga Gurlukovich near the Shell 2 Connecting Bridge. Reporting the strange sight to her superior, Solidus Snake, he remarked that he had "seen someone use that box trick before."[21] During a Codec conversation, Snake professed his affinity for the box to Raiden, informing him of its value during infiltration, going so far as to say that the very success of Raiden's mission would hinge on how effectively he used his own box. He also implied in the same conversation that there were several other agents besides himself who used a cardboard box.[22]